My current "end of days" solution ... On the behest of a forum member...

erni said:

Is it still possible in Zurich ?

you can do it in a nearby place and spending a lot of time in Zurich (or have your gf rent a place there on top etc.).
Zurich itself is very leftist and hence doesn't want this (and as @jafo mentioned has been abolished).

jafo said:

This was the post that requested it Dubai is dead, any alternative to the free zone 9% tax? by @Marzio
, so here are a few of the places...

Full disclosure:

1. I chose these places but as one of the many usufructuaries! Peruse this: What Is Usufruct? How It Works With Property Use and Example - This may come in handy for @369 and his beneficiaries.
2. I usually purchase properties through Mercado Livre /Mercado Libre (MELI) Bloomberg - Are you a robot? because I own stocks in MELI and they act as a wonderful escrow agent. No chance of getting "ripped" off.
3. There are 2 other options besides MELI to purchase homes and I'll disclose them later. One is a US Bank and the other is the neighbors.
4. Prices are advertised prices. You can easily get 20 % to 40% off the advertised price depending on how you structure the deal. The more friction the higher the price.

These places have been chosen because the neighborhoods have people like the Ben Rickerts of the world in them,
These neighbors choose to stay the f*ck away from "civilizations" and want to be left the f*ck alone. Also, weapons are easily and legally obtainable in these places. Also, all your neighbors are armed, so there isn't much of a survival chance an "outsider" can come and take over.

In NO particular order...Let's start with those that are in neighborhoods of the usufructuaries, so they have been vetted:

• Punta del Este, Uruguay Casa en venta o alquiler | Punta del Este. Ref #Z236B3 - infocasas.com.uy
• Bariloche, Argentina https://www.zonaprop.com.ar/propied...mbientes-costa-del-lago-melipal-52615813.html
• Ciudad del Este, Paraguay VENDO MODERNA CASA EN PARANA COUNTRY CLUB. Ref #I79C63 - infocasas.com.py
• Bariloche, Argentina - where a friend just purchased: zonaprop.com.ar/propiedades/emprendimiento/e…2441525.html
• Jurerê Internacional, Santa Catarina, Brazil: Casa na Rua das Tibiras, Jurerê Internacional em Florianópolis, por R$ 7.200.000 - Viva Real
• Blumenau, Santa Catarina, Brazil: Casa 320 m² em Itoupava Central em Blumenau, por R$ 1.855.000 - Viva Real
• I always suggest/recommend that potential home buyers take a vacation down there & rent first and see if the neighborhood "accepts" you: Mansion De 4 Dormitorios En Suite Y Departamento Salida Al Mar Carilo - U$S 19.500

Note: Obviously, I prefer Europe, especially Monaco, and Switzerland, or Asia, but Europe's demographics are changing and I don't feel like standing trial on a self-defense charge. My buddy and I got into a street fight with three "non-Europeans" in 2006 when we attended a conference at the Villepinte in Paris. Imagine staying at Le Bristol and having to throw hands with some street guys at midnight coming back from dinner.... Yeah...I'll pass. stupi#21

Asia, has China in it, and on the off-chance, there is a "problem", I don't think I'll be safe. Let's face it, if there are hate crimes...I can't pretend I am Asian or from Asia. 🙄
Also, I can't have weapons "legally" in Asia. cry&¤

(A) Regarding the 2 other options (mentioned in #3) the "neighbors & residents" use a platform where they can receive any amount of crypto (up to $50M) and can convert it to the local currency (or US$ or €).

(B) The neighbors can also accept crypto (after they've welcomed their new neighbor) and can provide liquidity to purchase a home or other large expenses.
Which is the reason I no longer try to onramp or offramp on exchanges or P2P. I do keep swapping excess USDT for Bitcoin though and this is solely thanks to the OCT forum. Special thanks to @JohnnyDoe and @wellington for inculcating that USDT/USDC is NOT a safe anything. I only keep what I need to trade with my suppliers. All excess I convert to Bitcoin. The OCT forum has been a real lifesaver! ;)

Note: I can't provide those above-mentioned services to others, since I am also a beneficiary of the largesse of these "neighborhoods". One of the "terms of service" is not to act as an intermediary to outsiders. cry&¤ Even if I wanted to, I can't profit from this. I have to respect their wishes otherwise they'll cut me off and I'm not looking to quarrel with my "neighbors".

You just have to take a vacation there to understand & experience it. Always best to contract a Spanish (Spaniard) or Portuguese (from Portugal) interpreter to go along or meet you there so things can go smoothly until you reach your destination (if you are not fluent in the spoken languages).

Start with Punta del Este in Uruguay. For example, it's only US$900/month to get your boots on the ground. ;)
Example: Alquiler Invernal Frente Al Mar - 2 Dorm Y Medio - Todos Los Amenities - U$S 900

In these neighborhoods, everyone is affluent and either studied in Europe (including the UK), the US, or at an International Baccalaureate school. English is NOT a problem to these people. In most of these neighborhoods, their quotidian language is either German, Italian, or English ;)
Note: The minimum wage cashier or the taxi driver does NOT speak English! Don't complain about them stupi#21

For example: The German Language In Blumenau Brazil

Good luck to you!

PS. Of course, there may be better options out there. It's an individual endeavor. Of course, if I were Chinese, Arab, or African, I would NOT choose the above-mentioned places for obvious reasons. 🙄

good insight.

jafo said:

The abridged version:
Several people on the OCT forum kept going back and forth and explaining inflation and how Bitcoin was a hedge against inflation. Not gonna deny it, hereinafter NGDI, I understood it the same way I understood 40 years ago that (excess) sugar was bad for me. Did I immediately jump into action against sugar? No... it took time to lower my sugar cravings. Same with bitcoin.

@wellington kept providing links and sources about how the "unnameables" had access to freeze & confiscate USDT/USDC 😳
@JohnnyDoe kept dropping Bitcoin witticisms
Many others (+10 people) on OCT, can't remember them all now, kept browbeating the rest of us with the benefits of Bitcoin.

I did a test.... I exchanged a large amount of USDT for Bitcoin and then juxtaposed it with gold, silver, platinum, and essentials like groceries, and meds.

I soon realized (OK.. 3 months later...I'm slow and stupid..what else is new? rof/% ) that the USDT swapped in Bitcoin kept growing. USDT was what it always was. Prices of groceries kept rising. 😳

It was at this moment I realized I should apply the same tactic I do on stocks: Figure out the intrinsic value and set a buy limit!
Since the excess USDT was profit, I could, in essence, gamble it away as I didn't need it. I also didn't have a better place to invest it. Also, I don't use exchanges, except for small things, so the "unameables" can see I only use it to buy groceries, supplements, and meds.

Note: Right now, I'm NOT too inclined to exchange excess USDT for Bitcoins. I was when Bitcoin was <30K. So, instead, I purchase excess inventory and send it to my clients.

I hope to have explained myself adequately.

PS. I have been buying Bitcoin for a while when I had excess cash and didn't want to travel with cash and didn't want to have to explain excess cash, so I used LocalBitcoins P2P until they eventually went out of business.

Problem with stocks is actually you merely own a claim on a claim on a claim something like 6-24 claims deep.

When it comes to TBills they are leveraged something like 45 currently...

jafo said:

• Punta del Este, Uruguay Casa en venta o alquiler | Punta del Este. Ref #Z236B3 - infocasas.com.uy

I was there a few years ago, nice place.

jafo said:

This was the post that requested it Dubai is dead, any alternative to the free zone 9% tax? by @Marzio
, so here are a few of the places...

Full disclosure:

1. I chose these places but as one of the many usufructuaries! Peruse this: What Is Usufruct? How It Works With Property Use and Example - This may come in handy for @369 and his beneficiaries.
2. I usually purchase properties through Mercado Livre /Mercado Libre (MELI) Bloomberg - Are you a robot? because I own stocks in MELI and they act as a wonderful escrow agent. No chance of getting "ripped" off.
3. There are 2 other options besides MELI to purchase homes and I'll disclose them later. One is a US Bank and the other is the neighbors.
4. Prices are advertised prices. You can easily get 20 % to 40% off the advertised price depending on how you structure the deal. The more friction the higher the price.

These places have been chosen because the neighborhoods have people like the Ben Rickerts of the world in them,
These neighbors choose to stay the f*ck away from "civilizations" and want to be left the f*ck alone. Also, weapons are easily and legally obtainable in these places. Also, all your neighbors are armed, so there isn't much of a survival chance an "outsider" can come and take over.

In NO particular order...Let's start with those that are in neighborhoods of the usufructuaries, so they have been vetted:

• Punta del Este, Uruguay Casa en venta o alquiler | Punta del Este. Ref #Z236B3 - infocasas.com.uy
• Bariloche, Argentina https://www.zonaprop.com.ar/propied...mbientes-costa-del-lago-melipal-52615813.html
• Ciudad del Este, Paraguay VENDO MODERNA CASA EN PARANA COUNTRY CLUB. Ref #I79C63 - infocasas.com.py
• Bariloche, Argentina - where a friend just purchased: zonaprop.com.ar/propiedades/emprendimiento/e…2441525.html
• Jurerê Internacional, Santa Catarina, Brazil: Casa na Rua das Tibiras, Jurerê Internacional em Florianópolis, por R$ 7.200.000 - Viva Real
• Blumenau, Santa Catarina, Brazil: Casa 320 m² em Itoupava Central em Blumenau, por R$ 1.855.000 - Viva Real
• I always suggest/recommend that potential home buyers take a vacation down there & rent first and see if the neighborhood "accepts" you: Mansion De 4 Dormitorios En Suite Y Departamento Salida Al Mar Carilo - U$S 19.500

Note: Obviously, I prefer Europe, especially Monaco, and Switzerland, or Asia, but Europe's demographics are changing and I don't feel like standing trial on a self-defense charge. My buddy and I got into a street fight with three "non-Europeans" in 2006 when we attended a conference at the Villepinte in Paris. Imagine staying at Le Bristol and having to throw hands with some street guys at midnight coming back from dinner.... Yeah...I'll pass. stupi#21

Asia, has China in it, and on the off-chance, there is a "problem", I don't think I'll be safe. Let's face it, if there are hate crimes...I can't pretend I am Asian or from Asia. 🙄
Also, I can't have weapons "legally" in Asia. cry&¤

(A) Regarding the 2 other options (mentioned in #3) the "neighbors & residents" use a platform where they can receive any amount of crypto (up to $50M) and can convert it to the local currency (or US$ or €).

(B) The neighbors can also accept crypto (after they've welcomed their new neighbor) and can provide liquidity to purchase a home or other large expenses.
Which is the reason I no longer try to onramp or offramp on exchanges or P2P. I do keep swapping excess USDT for Bitcoin though and this is solely thanks to the OCT forum. Special thanks to @JohnnyDoe and @wellington for inculcating that USDT/USDC is NOT a safe anything. I only keep what I need to trade with my suppliers. All excess I convert to Bitcoin. The OCT forum has been a real lifesaver! ;)

Note: I can't provide those above-mentioned services to others, since I am also a beneficiary of the largesse of these "neighborhoods". One of the "terms of service" is not to act as an intermediary to outsiders. cry&¤ Even if I wanted to, I can't profit from this. I have to respect their wishes otherwise they'll cut me off and I'm not looking to quarrel with my "neighbors".

You just have to take a vacation there to understand & experience it. Always best to contract a Spanish (Spaniard) or Portuguese (from Portugal) interpreter to go along or meet you there so things can go smoothly until you reach your destination (if you are not fluent in the spoken languages).

Start with Punta del Este in Uruguay. For example, it's only US$900/month to get your boots on the ground. ;)
Example: Alquiler Invernal Frente Al Mar - 2 Dorm Y Medio - Todos Los Amenities - U$S 900

In these neighborhoods, everyone is affluent and either studied in Europe (including the UK), the US, or at an International Baccalaureate school. English is NOT a problem to these people. In most of these neighborhoods, their quotidian language is either German, Italian, or English ;)
Note: The minimum wage cashier or the taxi driver does NOT speak English! Don't complain about them stupi#21

For example: The German Language In Blumenau Brazil

Good luck to you!

PS. Of course, there may be better options out there. It's an individual endeavor. Of course, if I were Chinese, Arab, or African, I would NOT choose the above-mentioned places for obvious reasons. 🙄

Very good post and interest read.

Argentina? Where people for years could not access their bank accounts?
Brazil? where you can get shot at if you enter a wrong neighborhood?
Uruguay, maybe, but also the recent story with water shortages and riots that ensued doesn't bode well for the self-sufficiency argument.