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State Department Will Revoke Passports of Parents Who Owe Child Support

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sampledSky said:

The beginning of US exit bans for those in debt? How long until this applies to business, student loans, and other debts?

#This right here!

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Just get a Canadian (or other) passport and the problem is solved. Many options are out there.

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Paratore said:

Just get a Canadian (or other) passport and the problem is solved. Many options are out there.

But first you have to manage to sneak out of a U.S. border, if they check they will see you are also a U.S. citizen.

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JohnnyDoe said:

But first you have to manage to sneak out of a U.S. border, if they check they will see you are also a U.S. citizen.

The US has no formal exit control. It’s handled by airline passenger manifests and a government database system that links individuals to passports, even if you have more than one, by a matching algorithm. I have checked in for flights out of the US with my Canadian passport and no one has asked to see my US passport. Coming in is a different matter. The airlines don’t care because Canadians are exempt from ESTA so they will board you. US CBP expects you to present a US passport at passport control to come back in, though. Other passports that require an ESTA or a visa can be problematic because US citizens are not eligible for those and airlines want proof of your ability to enter or they won’t board you. Of course, the US could specifically intervene to stop you from leaving if they wanted, but in that case Mexican and Canadian land borders are poorly policed and easy to cross. The US and Canada share information on land border crossings and all travel by individuals with visas and permanent resident cards but supposedly not on citizen travel to/from airports that don’t involve both countries.

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Paratore said:

The US has no formal exit control. It’s handled by airline passenger manifests and a government database system that links individuals to passports, even if you have more than one, by a matching algorithm. I have checked in for flights out of the US with my Canadian passport and no one has asked to see my US passport. Coming in is a different matter. The airlines don’t care because Canadians are exempt from ESTA so they will board you. US CBP expects you to present a US passport at passport control to come back in, though. Other passports that require an ESTA or a visa can be problematic because US citizens are not eligible for those and airlines want proof of your ability to enter or they won’t board you. Of course, the US could specifically intervene to stop you from leaving if they wanted, but in that case Mexican and Canadian land borders are poorly policed and easy to cross. The US and Canada share information on land border crossings and all travel by individuals with visas and permanent resident cards but supposedly not on citizen travel to/from airports that don’t involve both countries.

Yes, that is why I have proposed to get some cheap citizenship that issues at least some papers. If you are white, you can even just go to Mexico by the land border. If you want to leave by air, you will need at least a passport. Even though to be fairly honest, you will pass security at the airport with a driving licence and the airline staff normally does not check very detailed, most likely even some self-printed passports that look genuine would do the job.

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There is zero reason to use a forgery when it is so easy to get real passports from other countries. In the US there is nothing short of an active manhunt that will stop you from flying out on a foreign passport.

At passport control on entry, US CBP doesn’t want to see a US citizen’s passport anymore. They do a facial scan and use their new facial recognition database now. That is new in the past year. Correcting my earlier statement.

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