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UBS has halted withdrawals from $469 million real estate fund for up to 3 years

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UBS has basically locked the gates on their €407 million (~$469M) Euroinvest real estate fund. They're suspending redemptions (withdrawals) for up to 36 months because there's not enough liquid cash to handle all the people wanting their money back. The fund mainly holds office buildings across Europe, and apparently too many investors are trying to bail at once. UBS is calling it "protecting all investors' interests" in this tough market, but it basically means if you asked to pull money out after March 25, you're waiting. Potentially till 2029. And who knows you'll be able to in 2029... I'd be pissed off.

It's the first big one since tensions escalated in the Middle East, and apparently there are similar issues in a few German funds already, with over €130 billion stuck in these vehicles overall.

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Well, it’s normal and should be expected from a small RE fund ($400m is indeed small). The fund’s Offering Memorandum certainly provides for such eventuality.
They could of course obtain liquidity quickly without selling the assets, but it would be in fact detrimental for those who remain invested. Plus, fewer assets mean fewer expenses paid for the fund’s executives, which is the whole reason for a fund to exist.

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JohnnyDoe said:

($400m is indeed small)

It's a TEST case! They are testing the waters like they did during the SCAMdemic:cool:

Here’s the breakdown of what’s happening, IMHO:

  1. Small-scale tests: A €400M–€500M lockup is the first test. It’s small enough that most people won’t notice, or will accept it as “market conditions” or “bad luck.”🫣
  2. Incremental escalation: Once the public is desensitized, they scale up...€5B, €50B, €500B. Each step is “justified” by the last one.🤦
  3. Psychological conditioning: The goal is to make people believe that “this is just how it is now.” The outrage threshold moves with each escalation. ;)
  4. Wealth preservation for the political parasites: The political connected, influential, and privileged have offshore accounts, legal structures, and political connections that protect their capital. Regular investors, like us, get the stick 🤦
  5. Social collapse as a byproduct: As more people are locked out of their own money, basic needs go unmet. That’s not a bug...it’s a feature of the system.🤦

This isn’t just about UBS or real estate funds. It’s about a broader strategy of financial control, where liquidity is selectively denied to maintain power and suppress dissent. The outrage is managed, not eliminated.

It's almost as if the UBS CEO, management, and the UBS board of directors want to become the fuse for the equivalent of the 1789 French Revolution 😎:ROFLMAO:

Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies that also adhere to RIPCORD*** solve this!

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jafo said:

It's a TEST case! They are testing the waters like they did during the SCAMdemic:cool:

It's not. You are overestimating (by orders of magnitude) the average Wall Street Master of the Universe's intelligence. In this specific case it's not even Wall Street but some smart ass in Munich, Europaplatz 1:

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They don't test anyone, they have no clue of what is going on now and even less of what will happen in the future. They are just focused on collecting dumb money. They are doing it quite well, and they don't like when they have to return it.
That nice building was bought with the investors' money. Beautiful trimmed hedge: the gardener is part of the fund's "operating expenses".
In the parking, just one car (it seems a rental).
Probably they mainly use the building for night parties.
As a matter of fact, a fund of this type with only $400m in AUM is enough for its executives for having fun, not enough to be considered a safe investment.
They don't force anyone to give them money, so there's no reason to cry if something doesn't go how you imagined.

jafo said:

Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies that also adhere to RIPCORD*** solve this!

Bitcoin should not be viewed as an investment. You don't buy it with the expectation of realizing a future gain.

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JohnnyDoe said:

Bitcoin should not be viewed as an investment. You don't buy it with the expectation of realizing a future gain.

I 100% agree!

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jafo said:

I 100% agree!

An investment, any type of, carries some degree of risk, by definition. Including keeping money in a bank account or buying t-bills. That’s why you receive (hopefully) a return from an investment.
Btc doesn’t pay any interest. Because it’s not an investment. Therefore it has zero risk.

Same for XMR 😀 which has even a better economic model.

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JohnnyDoe said:

It's not. You are overestimating (by orders of magnitude) the average Wall Street Master of the Universe's intelligence. In this specific case it's not even Wall Street but some smart ass in Munich, Europaplatz 1:

They don't test anyone, they have no clue of what is going on now and even less of what will happen in the future. They are just focused on collecting dumb money. They are doing it quite well, and they don't like when they have to return it.
That nice building was bought with the investors' money. Beautiful trimmed hedge: the gardener is part of the fund's "operating expenses".
In the parking, just one car (it seems a rental).
Probably they mainly use the building for night parties.
As a matter of fact, a fund of this type with only $400m in AUM is enough for its executives for having fun, not enough to be considered a safe investment.
They don't force anyone to give them money, so there's no reason to cry if something doesn't go how you imagined.

Bitcoin should not be viewed as an investment. You don't buy it with the expectation of realizing a future gain.

If you want to make money in gambling, run a casino. Financial markets are the same. Collect fees, don’t chase profits.

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