JOHNNY DOETHE LIFE WHISPERER

7-figure crypto cashout - no SoF

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JohnnyDoeSchrödinger‘s guy
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#21

jafo said:
  1. Is buying a new place going to improve your financial life?
  2. Will you be earning more money AFTER you cash out and purchase a new home?
  3. Counterintuitive reality: The more tangible things you possess, the more people e.g. governments, friends, family, NGOs, etc., will harass you for "contributions". Are you ready and willing to deal with this and say goodbye to a substantial portion (or all) of your money?

PS. I have dozens of business associates who now wished they kept their mouths shut and their wealth stealthy. I don't know a single one who, having hindsight, is happy they came out of the "closet" (No pun intended). Please ponder on this....

I have NO dog in this fight!

I would also add: can buying a property Germany make one happy? bor&%#

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#22

JohnnyDoe said:

Very easy to do with a simple 3-steps strategy.

I am all ears.

jafo said:
  1. Is buying a new place going to improve your financial life?
  2. Will you be earning more money AFTER you cash out and purchase a new home?
  3. Counterintuitive reality: The more tangible things you possess, the more people e.g. governments, friends, family, NGOs, etc., will harass you for "contributions". Are you ready and willing to deal with this and say goodbye to a substantial portion (or all) of your money?

PS. I have dozens of business associates who now wished they kept their mouths shut and their wealth stealthy. I don't know a single one who, having hindsight, is happy they came out of the "closet" (No pun intended). Please ponder on this....

I have NO dog in this fight!

1. Slightly, yes. But after all more money buys better property. The financial benifits are not my focus here but having a nice home to live in certainly improves quality of life.
2. No, I am done for good. My lifestyle is rather down to earth. There's no need to acquire more money. All future income would be from reinvesting in low-risk assets and that's about it.
3. My closest friends and family already know about that money. Nothing has changed, like at all. Mostly because I haven't changed I guess. All I want is some financial safety for my personal and my families future. I don't have the need show off in a neon colored lambo wearing a Rainbow Rolex.

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#23

JohnnyDoe said:

I would also add: can buying a property Germany make one happy? bor&%#

Personally? Yes. But I can get behind anyone who prefers other places to spend their lives.

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#24

StandardOrGold said:

I am all ears.

I don't want to help you end up in a rabbit hole.

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#25

Then why mention it in the first place?

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#26

StandardOrGold said:

Then why mention it in the first place?

Perhaps you will change your mind

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#27

JohnnyDoe said:

Perhaps you will change your mind

About what exactly? To get the money legally on my name? I'm getting rather confused here.

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#28

StandardOrGold said:

My closest friends and family already know about that money.

😳

StandardOrGold said:

Also I don't care about cash, I want to have that money legally in my name. Or atleast as much as possible.

I'm going to give it to you straight: Go see a crypto lawyer in Germany and an accountant that specializes in crypto. Have them cut a deal with the tax authorities and sleep well at night. You'll pay a huge portion but you won't be "blackmailed" by anyone in the future. You'll sleep well at night and have the fiat in your name.

Good luck!

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#29

I was exactly in the same situation as you and managed to get everything done.
If you want send me a PM with your session id i can advise you.

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#30

@JohnnyDoe Instead of judging people, propose solutions to people, otherwise keep quiet.

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#31

Tate said:

@JohnnyDoe Instead of judging people, propose solutions to people, otherwise keep quiet.

Thanks for your useful advice.

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#32

1,000,000 = 7 figure.

How is this hard to liquidate?
Seriously this is peanuts in crypto liquidation terms.

1) HK Fintech/Bank/Exchange OTC
2) Taiwan Banking (Merchant Bank)
3) Banking in Europe/Dubai/etc

As for SOF I can't advise if this is 'black' or 'grey' funds.

But what i will say -> that would be the quickest, less costly way to liquidate anything above 6 figures and with minimal fees (0.01%-0.02%) as HK corporations are (like many in Asia) are getting Stable-coins which they can then liquidate into $ which can be transferred to HK/China/etc where the Central Banks get the EURO or $ they desperately need to pay down the interest on their state, corporate, EURODOLLAR debts.

Think our rates are something like 0.01% and we get on-par or above-par value of exchange rate in traditional currency conversion (interbank).

*Correction just checked, fees - 780,000 HKD (100,000$) have fees of 1.085% above 780,000 HKD fee gradually declines to 0.01% at over 7,800,000 HKD (1m $ roughly).

So no 'premiums for liquidating'. ~ basically the price of a Swift.. and Taiwanese merchant banks have access in some cases to the SEPA network so funds can be moved near instantly opposed to waiting for snail mail and the funds routing all around the world before ending up in Germany.

If it's black or grey funds -> i won't comment.

But for legitimate funds (personal/corporate) that's the way to go ~ usually you will have a account manager (we do).

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As for non-prior declaration -> negotiate a settlement, pay the toll road fee.

Should have been smarter and given it to a fund to manage (legitimate one i might add) then it would only be taxable on the entire value when liquidating, not the exchanges over the years or moved abroad the moment you needed to do one exchange realising it was going to continue to rise and you needed to reduce future tax burdens).

wellington said:

Should have been smarter and given it to a fund to manage (legitimate one i might add) then it would only be taxable on the entire value when liquidating, not the exchanges over the years or moved abroad the moment you needed to do one exchange realising it was going to continue to rise and you needed to reduce future tax burdens).

Having said that...

You might actually be able to do that still...

If you have Bitcoin etc you price it as an asset you invest that asset (you go on it's euro value) into a fund.

Fund manages it and in a few years liquidate and you have x Euro's sent to your bank in Germany.

Now of-course there may be questions on SoW/SoF by the fund, but in Germany i'd imagine ultimately you have the Bitcoin (similar) already you are not realising it so there's no tax it's a asset -> a asset deployed into a investment.

I'd imagine a lawyer/accountant could certainly find a legal manner to structure that so you don't have a liquidation tax or similar, it could even be done as a private 'euro-dollar' debt like instrument i.e asset as collateral repayment in Euro/BTC or other + % of fund performance / or interest.

Or a straight deposit as a investment (asset with Euro Value).

Of-course i'd probably in your shoes have it spread around a few funds (Europe ->standard return, HK -> exotic (shitcoin growth) returns).

At the end of it you have returns and a reinforced paper-trail.

Last edited: Dec 17, 2023

kilorFake user - Alias of JohnLocke
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#33

JohnnyDoe said:

It's feasible with a bit of imagination and the right contacts ;)

do you have any real good plan for it ?

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