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AEOI / CRS

Mini Mal

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Hi everyone,

how do you all plan to maintain tax anonymity given that CSR / AEOI in the EU has becomes effective?

CRS and FATCA for Tax transparency - Bank of Cyprus Country

It looks like this will be a self-certification of tax residents, so there might be something there, but otherwise it seems like this might be pretty tricky to solve.

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Actually, it looks like that for corporate accounts, the bank will report the beneficiary owner under CRS only if the company is an investment company or a Passive NFE (less than 50% from investments).

So, in theory, it looks like an Active NFE should be fine.

Is anyone able to confirm?

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Here is some information about the reporting that will apply for the Cyprus banks:
CRS recognizes 2 types of companies:

1. Active Companies
2. Passive Companies

An Active Company is the company that meets any one of the following criteria:
(a) Less than 50 percent of the company's gross income for the preceding calendar year or other appropriate reporting period is passive income and less than 50 percent of the assets held by the company during the preceding calendar year or other appropriate reporting period are assets that produce or are held for the production of passive income;

(b) The stock of the NFFE is regularly traded on an established securities market or

(c) Substantially all of the activities of the Company consist of holding (in whole or in part) the outstanding stock of, or providing financing and services to, one or more subsidiaries that engage in trades or businesses other than the business of a Financial Institution

A Passive Company is a company that is not active. Basically it includes companies that have income from investment activities like dividends, interest, rent and royalties.
The beneficial owners of an Active company will not be reported by the bank
The beneficial owners of a Passive company will be reported by the bank.

So, if the company is an active, then no reporting will be made by the banks.

In addition, if you don't go for a real bank account but can use some of the digital currency accounts provided for instant by AdvanceCash, WorldCore, Xapo etc. then you can setup the entire thing with fake documents. So you don't need to worry about reporting at all.

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auric said:

In addition, if you don't go for a real bank account but can use some of the digital currency accounts provided for instant by AdvanceCash, WorldCore, Xapo etc. then you can setup the entire thing with fake documents. So you don't need to worry about reporting at all.

Cool! Thanks.

Worldcore looks Amazing. Anyone using it?
I know the founders of Xapo, but that's just BTC.

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I'm using it with great pleasure. But I have also an advance cash account and of course Xapo. In addition my LeuPay account is under review (3rd account with 3rd ID) and waiting to be able to test them.

BTW: is Xapo owned by a private person?

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Cool, might be interesting.

Xapo is a private company with backing from a ton of Silicon Valley VCs

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Mini Mal said:

Cool, might be interesting.

Xapo is a private company with backing from a ton of Silicon Valley VCs

ahh, that's why I saw them on Discovery the last day in Sweden ;) thanks for the information... sorry to get off topic troll¤##

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