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Crypto with no source of funds

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Hey, i have €200k in cryptocurrency but providing a source of funds is not possible, no taxes paid on it eiter.

I am a European resident and i dont think relocating is worth it for these amounts.
My end goal is to have these funds in fiat in a personal bank account. As safe as possible.

How many options do i have in a situation like this?

Are there experienced people who can help with this setup in the safest way possible? Of course for a fee.

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esoteric said:

Hey, i have €200k in cryptocurrency but providing a source of funds is not possible, no taxes paid on it eiter.

I am a European resident and i dont think relocating is worth it for these amounts.
My end goal is to have these funds in fiat in a personal bank account. As safe as possible.

How many options do i have in a situation like this?

Are there experienced people who can help with this setup in the safest way possible? Of course for a fee.

Which EU country are you based in?

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CyprusLawyer101 said:

Which EU country are you based in?

The Netherlands.

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I am happy to help

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JohnnyDoe said:

I am happy to help

Elaborate, or contact the guy directly. Your comment makes second to no sense to all the people who want a solution!

You solution is to find a factory service or invoicing service. It's how people are doing it. I would elaborate more on it,if you want you can PM me.

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esoteric said:

The Netherlands.

The Netherlands apply some sort of a wealth tax even on crypto holdings. So basically by owning the crypto ( if its in your name ) then you are already subject to tax. There is a system of presumed gains being applied which is progressive and grants an exemption up to a certain amount and thereafter progressively applies a fictional gain % upon which you are being taxed. This is calculated every year at pre announced rates. This is actually an absurd system as it assumes gains at all times. Hopefully its abolished soon. However for now it appears you have some taxes to pay on the crypto you hold. The good thing is that at the time of disposal you shouldnt be subject to tax. So your best bet would be to consult a Dutch tax professional to settle any taxes due before disposing of the crypto. Or if you want to keep it and it to remains tax free, then there might be other options available for planning.
The above are valid based on last time I have looked into it and so you should definitely get local confirmations for it.

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CyprusLawyer101 said:

The Netherlands apply some sort of a wealth tax even on crypto holdings. So basically by owning the crypto ( if its in your name ) then you are already subject to tax. There is a system of presumed gains being applied which is progressive and grants an exemption up to a certain amount and thereafter progressively applies a fictional gain % upon which you are being taxed. This is calculated every year at pre announced rates. This is actually an absurd system as it assumes gains at all times. Hopefully its abolished soon. However for now it appears you have some taxes to pay on the crypto you hold. The good thing is that at the time of disposal you shouldnt be subject to tax. So your best bet would be to consult a Dutch tax professional to settle any taxes due before disposing of the crypto. Or if you want to keep it and it to remains tax free, then there might be other options available for planning.
The above are valid based on last time I have looked into it and so you should definitely get local confirmations for it.

Thats the thing, the funds are not in my name. The wealth tax is not the issue, as it is 1,4% up to €1,000,000.

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esoteric said:

Thats the thing, the funds are not in my name. The wealth tax is not the issue, as it is 1,4% up to €1,000,000.

What you mean are not in your name?

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CyprusLawyer101 said:

What you mean are not in your name?

You stated, if the funds are in my name - i would already be subject for tax. These funds have not been declared, legally they are not in my name.

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esoteric said:

You stated, if the funds are in my name - i would already be subject for tax. These funds have not been declared, legally they are not in my name.

Are they in a company or where ?

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CyprusLawyer101 said:

Are they in a company or where ?

Decentralized in cryptocurrency

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Who's name are they in to? or is it an anonymous wallet?

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Who's name are they in to? or is it an anonymous wallet?

Yes, its stored in an anonymous offline wallet. From a legal standpoint, nobody owns it

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Perfect, it's easy, just take some of the guys offering factoring services.

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esoteric said:

Yes, its stored in an anonymous offline wallet. From a legal standpoint, nobody owns it

Get it into a company and then transfer the company to you. I can help, if you are interested I can PM you.

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