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Guidance needed in processing. 5M+ business just hit with BRAM violation

areed15ev

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HI all, I run a replica site doing 300-500k a month... I currently have 2 processors in the USA, one which knows what we actually sell ( and works with us) the other which doesn't and we have just as a backup. we use a dummy site and a middleware to push the transactions through so the banks do not technically know what's going on... We also invest a good amount in SEO and have ranked number 1 across 60+ keywords. All that being said, ive navigated this just from learning along the way and have figured out how to keep it chugging along with relative ease.. recently though Louis Vuitton sent over infringement claims to Google to de-index us from search, and also sent over what I assume is relevant info to Mastercard/Visa etc.. We were hit with a BRAM violation today from MC and our MID was taken down leaving us without processing.

My question is this... I need guidance on keeping processing up whether that's a processor inside the USA or outside.. Now that myself and sig other are prob on the MATCH list, how do I get go about getting signed up for processing? Do i specifically need another persons name for the app? at worst do I go dark web for this stuff? how much risk is there in that? Is there a way to keep keep the card companies from knowing who/what bank is running our transactions? are their banks that dont respond to take down requests?

I effectively have all the other parts of the business lines up... systems, product, Social ads, branding, hosting, SEO, blah blah... I Can change out my URL, host, whatever no issue... I have the customer base in tact and can run ads through FB, TT no prob due to cloaking... but i cant effectively keep processing active continually.. Its been the bane of my existence. Also, willing to pay a consult fee for someone whos legitimately experienced in this world and can lead me in the right direction.

Hope to hear from you all.

Thanks

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areed15ev said:

My question is this... I need guidance on keeping processing up whether that's a processor inside the USA or outside.. Now that myself and sig other are prob on the MATCH list, how do I get go about getting signed up for processing? Do i specifically need another persons name for the app?

Yes. You may also need a new company and new URL. Not all listings are the same, but better safe than sorry.

areed15ev said:

at worst do I go dark web for this stuff?

For example. Some people use friends and family members. But synthetic or stolen identities are more common.

areed15ev said:

how much risk is there in that?

It might be a crime, but it's one that's by itself practically never enforced. It could make things worse if you're caught for something else and this gets added to the pile of evidence against you.

If if it's a bad or well-known identity, you risk rejection or fast termination. You won't know that until you try, though.

areed15ev said:

Is there a way to keep keep the card companies from knowing who/what bank is running our transactions?

No.

areed15ev said:

are their banks that dont respond to take down requests?

No, if it gets as far as a BRAM violation, no one is going to protect you. A bank that does risks completely losing the ability to issue Visa and/or Mastercards.

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Also, if anyone is versed in "dark" paypal accounts and how to use them effectively... Again, im very happy to pay for experienced consulting.. Thanks

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I know who can help, also know some sources for what you are looking for. PM me.

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You running under your own name?

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Jay Gatsby said:

You running under your own name?

Currently a friend

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Maybe I can help with PayPal. You have PM

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areed15ev said:

Also, if anyone is versed in "dark" paypal accounts and how to use them effectively... Again, im very happy to pay for experienced consulting.. Thanks

for 300-500k payments a month or even 100k you are going to need many paypal accounts, dark business paypal accounts are possible (my friend owns one) but paypal is quick to freeze suspicious accounts, even legit business owners have gotten their business destroyed by paypal so proceed with caution obviously. You could create multiple personal paypal accounts and get paid via friends and family or via paypal goods and services, new accounts will get the money frozen for multiple days by default, if the buyer does not open a case its easy, if you dont go over limits (for german accounts, afaik 1.000€ is fine but if the account is <2 months old and you received 3k in total they may ask for ID i think, but i dont work with paypal currently so idk.) im pretty sure its different for each country. youre going to need 1x sim card for each paypal account obviously and message the customers so they pay manually. there is no option for a payment gateway linked to a personal paypal account as far as i know.

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