How could a TIN alone be used elsewhere?

Mercado4 said:

I am a nominee director for a company operating in Italy

Are you aware of art 512-bis of the Italian Criminal Code?

Hi Johnny, I just looked it up, grazie mille. Luckkily, my duties do not include any financial transactions whatsoever, so hopefully I should be good. Have a super nice day.

Mercado4 said:

Hi Johnny, I just looked it up, grazie mille. Luckkily, my duties do not include any financial transactions whatsoever, so hopefully I should be good. Have a super nice day.

Remember that if you are a director (“amministratore”), it doesn’t matter what you are actually asked to do: you are fully responsible for every action of the company, including financial transactions, even if they are physically executed by someone else and you know nothing about them.
Whatever “nominee agreement” you have signed with your client has zero legal value.

Grazie mille!!! I will most certainly consider it when (if) discussing future contract. This one expires shortly. Again, thank you.

Mercado4 said:

Grazie mille!!! I will most certainly consider it when (if) discussing future contract. This one expires shortly. Again, thank you.

You should be hired as a proper director, without any side agreement. It’s better for both parties and you might also bring value to the company this way.

Good advice, thanks again. See how it goes in May when we renegotiate.

Paratore said:

Don’t get one unless it’s needed?

And when you do need it, will fly to other country to finally obtain it? Which you could've obtained on your last trip there.

virgen_del_rosario said:

And when you do need it, will fly to other country to finally obtain it? Which you could've obtained on your last trip there.

Apply online, through a consulate, or go there. It depends on the specific circumstances. I’ve done all three.

Paratore said:

Apply online, through a consulate, or go there. It depends on the specific circumstances. I’ve done all three.

You're talking gibberish.
It don't depend on MY circumstances but on the availability of the mentioned the options of a certain country. The first 2 may noy, often aren't, be available at all.

The 3rd is, which requires physical presense. But I won't go visit the moment I find myself needing a tax id. Instead I'll obtain it in advance, whilst I'm there on a visit.

virgen_del_rosario said:

You're talking gibberish.
It don't depend on MY circumstances but on the availability of the mentioned the options of a certain country. The first 2 may noy, often aren't, be available at all.

The 3rd is, which requires physical presense. But I won't go visit the moment I find myself needing a tax id. Instead I'll obtain it in advance, whilst I'm there on a visit.

Most civilized countries allow one of the first two. Even some uncivilized ones do. You can always hire a local fixer for those that don’t.

They are YOUR circumstances. YOU need the tax ID from a certain country on a certain timeline. Since you know you need it, plan to get it. I assume you plan your life more than one day in advance? If you just wake up one morning and suddenly realize you need a tax ID from a country, then you have bigger problems than the cost of airfare.

> Most civilized countries allow one of the first two. Even some uncivilized ones do. You can always hire a local fixer for those that don’t.

Fallacy called "No true Scotsman - Wikipedia"

I don't care whether civilized countries allow it or not. What I care is whether the country I need TIN from allows it.

virgen_del_rosario said:

> Most civilized countries allow one of the first two. Even some uncivilized ones do. You can always hire a local fixer for those that don’t.

Fallacy called "No true Scotsman - Wikipedia"

I don't care whether civilized countries allow it or not. What I care is whether the country I need TIN from allows it.

That fallacy would only apply if I wrote that the criteria for being a civilized country included allowing easy acquisition of a TIN. I clearly wrote the opposite with “most” and “even some”. My statement that everyone should understand what they need and when they need it and plan to get it at an appropriate time still applies.

In one of the countries in Latin America, during opening an account, a TIN from Dominicana has turned out to be useful. I was asked whether I pay taxes in my home country.
- yes, however, to avoid overcomplication, I have a tax id of Dominicana.

Luckily, there's a personal backoffice - cabnet right at the "gov" website where one's Tax id is visible along with one's name. And which I demonstrated them. Not without a doubt due to absense of a hard copy, they, I assume, marked me a tax payeer of the island.