fake documents

khan said:

Do you know how they can check it?

Yes they check it and they can. All banks have access to the WorldDB from Reuters there you can lookup passports.

auric said:

Yes they check it and they can. All banks have access to the WorldDB from Reuters there you can lookup passports.

okay thanks. so more for non regulated financial service companies I understand right?

Whether banks check the passport database depends on each individual bank. I speak for Germany and Austria only as i have firsthand knowledge of these 2 countries. Non German EU ID works without any problems. German ID is usually run through the SCHUFA Fraud Pool database. This database holds the names of individuals who have been previously victims of identity theft. This information is provided strictly on a voluntary basis. A quick note about this automatic information exchange between EU member states. Whereas the official line in the media might be a little different, what i can tell you from our bank contact is this: Banks do NOT automatically report accounts of foreign account holders to foreign tax authorities. When opening a bank account in Germany foreign nationals have to provide their local tax ID(of the country they are registered in). The banks do not even verify it. All they see is how many digits this number needs to have. If you are a digit short, the application process will come to an automatic halt until the correct amount of digits is submitted. This information is then retained with the BAFIN where all accounts in Germany are registered in a central data base. If a foreign tax authority has any hints that their tax resident entertains an account in Germany, then they can send send an inquiry and get information about the specified account. So far only Germany and Austria have such a central database, as far as i know. So yes, its not outrageously anonymous but its also not as bad as one might think based on the information that is spread in the media.

@JoeBean still regardless if the bank check the documents when you submit them or not I would not use it for this purpose. They are meant only for online services.

But thanks for letting us know here. Have you tested such documents with a real bank at any time?

Hi,
i never said that we use fake identities nor do i suggest to use fake identities.

No problem.. I read you wrong. For anyone else upgrade your account to Mentor Group and you can see exactly what documents can work for which online banking and payment services. There are hundred of services where it makes good sense to avoid using your original personal docs ;)

auric said:

No problem.. I read you wrong. For anyone else upgrade your account to Mentor Group and you can see exactly what documents can work for which online banking and payment services. There are hundred of services where it makes good sense to avoid using your original personal docs ;)

There is a difference between identities and IDs;)

JoeBean said:

There is a difference between identities and IDs;)

yes, sometimes I write faster than my brain can think :D

JoeBean said:

Whether banks check the passport database depends on each individual bank. I speak for Germany and Austria only as i have firsthand knowledge of these 2 countries. Non German EU ID works without any problems. German ID is usually run through the SCHUFA Fraud Pool database. This database holds the names of individuals who have been previously victims of identity theft. This information is provided strictly on a voluntary basis. A quick note about this automatic information exchange between EU member states. Whereas the official line in the media might be a little different, what i can tell you from our bank contact is this: Banks do NOT automatically report accounts of foreign account holders to foreign tax authorities. When opening a bank account in Germany foreign nationals have to provide their local tax ID(of the country they are registered in). The banks do not even verify it. All they see is how many digits this number needs to have. If you are a digit short, the application process will come to an automatic halt until the correct amount of digits is submitted. This information is then retained with the BAFIN where all accounts in Germany are registered in a central data base. If a foreign tax authority has any hints that their tax resident entertains an account in Germany, then they can send send an inquiry and get information about the specified account. So far only Germany and Austria have such a central database, as far as i know. So yes, its not outrageously anonymous but its also not as bad as one might think based on the information that is spread in the media.

Can you please explain to me.. do you mean we can use the docs for real bank or not? had you success to use them with a real bank? my English is not so good as you read damn_(

donald bathe said:

what do they mean when they say this? can someone please explain this part to me? thank you.

They mean that if you want to keep the ball low, stay under the radar or simply protect your privacy you create a offshore company with fake documents. This is very simple.

You nailed it thu&¤#

Does this work for LeuPay please confirm before I order?

brutalzorn said:

Can you please explain to me.. do you mean we can use the docs for real bank or not? had you success to use them with a real bank? my English is not so good as you read damn_(

Is there a way on the forum to send you PM?

You need more posts and likes to start a conversation.. Check here How to start Conversation alternative you can upgrade the account to Mentor Group and PM everyone you want :D Ups, I don't think Admin find this to be fun.

brutalzorn said:

Can you please explain to me.. do you mean we can use the docs for real bank or not? had you success to use them with a real bank? my English is not so good as you read damn_(

No you can't use them for real banks. If you do you risk your account at the end of the day!

Even that you upgrade to Mentor Group access it will not give you a license to spam the forum or contact people that did not wanted you to contact them. That would be considered spam.
Please proceed with this conversation here Upgrade to Mentor Group today, thanks for the information :) if required... this is off topic.

Admin said:

Even that you upgrade to Mentor Group access it will not give you a license to spam the forum or contact people that did not wanted you to contact them. That would be considered spam.
Please proceed with this conversation here Upgrade to Mentor Group today, thanks for the information :) if required... this is off topic.

I do not want to spam the forum or any member.The member asked me a question and i do not want to post this information directly on the forum. My choice.

JoeBean said:

I do not want to spam the forum or any member.The member asked me a question and i do not want to post this information directly on the forum. My choice.

No problem.. I just outlined the rules because of the comment @auric made ;)

auric said:

You need more posts and likes to start a conversation.. Check here How to start Conversation alternative you can upgrade the account to Mentor Group and PM everyone you want :D Ups, I don't think Admin find this to be fun.

No you can't use them for real banks. If you do you risk your account at the end of the day!

I think you have a misunderstanding about identities. An identity is not YOU. It is a legal fiction that has been created by those who govern and you have been granted the right to use that name which you do so voluntarily. You, the man can have any identity that you wish. There is no such thing as a fake identity. Its either all fake or all real. And those who govern do NOT have the exclusive right to create identities. Anyone can do that. Those who govern accept exclusively the identities that they created, so they can interact with you under their terms and conditions. What your personal belief system concerning that issue is, that i cannot tell .

Well, if you ask people if they understand what the meaning is of "fake ID" I'm sure all will agree to the same. There is no one that is going in such details as you do there unless you are from the UK or USA.. anyway thanks for clarification it's good to have you here as our dictionary :D

auric said:

Well, if you ask people if they understand what the meaning is of "fake ID" I'm sure all will agree to the same. There is no one that is going in such details as you do there unless you are from the UK or USA.. anyway thanks for clarification it's good to have you here as our dictionary :D

I know what fake documents mean in this context :D Will soon contact you @auric