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botero said:Hey @auric I'm interested in getting in touch. Shoot me a PM when you can.
PM sent ;)
botero said:Hey @auric I'm interested in getting in touch. Shoot me a PM when you can.
PM sent ;)
Use @auric for darks he know what he is doing and documents works for AdvCash,WorldCore,Leupay, PayPal and paysera. I know.
auric said:@JoeBean still regardless if the bank check the documents when you submit them or not I would not use it for this purpose. They are meant only for online services.
But thanks for letting us know here. Have you tested such documents with a real bank at any time?
This is a good solution it looks like.
pincho said:I know what fake documents mean in this context :D Will soon contact you @auric
You setup company and paypal with fake docs?
hiju said:Does this work for LeuPay please confirm before I order?
Can you help a noob that is in same situation as you were? does it work?
brutalzorn said:Can you please explain to me.. do you mean we can use the docs for real bank or not? had you success to use them with a real bank? my English is not so good as you read damn_(
I would like to know, can the darks or fake documents be used for real bank account opening or "EMI" account only?
footlocker said:I would like to know, can the darks or fake documents be used for real bank account opening or "EMI" account only?
No they can not be used for this purpose! Only EMI accounts and other online services!
auric said:No they can not be used for this purpose! Only EMI accounts and other online services!
Yes, EU IDs can be used.... I speak for Germany in this case, other countries i dont have any first hand experience with. With a top notch fake you get your address registered, open a bank account and who knows what. The POSTIDENT is the best tool i can think of. But you shouldnt use a passport as the data could be cross referenced with other data pools ( I think the word cross referenced is much better than verified in this case ) For national EU IDs there is no central database. The only register that the banks in Germany usually use for cross reference is the SCHUFA. But not being listed there does not mean that the Name does not exist. Its just that the likelyhood to find the Name of someone residing in Germany is the greatest because its a national credit register. There are no government registers for banks, its all private. Under the UCC system that we live in, everything is considered voluntary. Out of 100 doors, they shut 99. The one door is what makes everything voluntary.;)
correct.. I know for sure the banks have always made cross checks.. that's what the EMI providers are unable to do.
EMIs can check the SCHUFA Database as well and Viabuy actually does, even on Level 1, no matter if you use passport or ID Card. But in Germany you actually dont have to use an EMI if you have a top EU(non-german) Physical. There is nothing to be checked if you dont use a Passport as there is no central Register for EU ID Cards. And POSTIDENT is very accomodating on top of that. There´s a bored postal employee sitting at the counter writing down the ID no. on the form, lets you sign it and you´re out of there. A good joke on the side and he even forgets he´s at work. He dont care about anything, his only concern is to go home on time. Always use POSTIDENT, try not do do the identification process directly at a bank. Its not worth the sweat.
happyjohn said:I'm still struggling with some document, waiting for @auric to finish.. otherwise it looks promising.
you got it setup? I tried with Paysera still in verification mode!
footlocker said:Can you help a noob that is in same situation as you were? does it work?
ask @auric if he can help you with docs! You can setup EMI accounts easely.
If you take your time to setup your Company, virtual office and what else you need it's a great opportunity to get something setup that will protect your privacy!
footlocker said:You setup company and paypal with fake docs?
That's possible and what many have done so far!
footlocker said:I would like to know, can the darks or fake documents be used for real bank account opening or "EMI" account only?
only EMI and other online services!
bountymounty said:you got it setup? I tried with Paysera still in verification mode!
Did they approve your account finally?
footlocker said:Can you help a noob that is in same situation as you were? does it work?
yes it works. I have been playing around for some time with the docs fake docs. I was didn't trust it to work, but it does :)
What i am still scratching my head at is, there is an open discussion about using dark docs to open Worldcore (or other EMI) accounts while these guys are watching and even participating in the forum discussion. Anything i am missing :-)?
Well it works so far. Anyway I'm slowly cleaning the forum from these threads and move them to the mentor group so this thread will be moved any time soon. We are just restructuring the Mentor Group area and may wait until SSL has been implemented if possible.
Admin said:Well it works so far. Anyway I'm slowly cleaning the forum from these threads and move them to the mentor group so this thread will be moved any time soon. We are just restructuring the Mentor Group area and may wait until SSL has been implemented if possible.
Ok, was just curious. Not that i mind a little creativity. Any issues with theses EMi providers after creation of the accounts, in particular withdrawing of funds? Worldcore and Leupay seem to be the most popular although i keep reading them doing the things that i was a little crtical about in my posts a couple of months back. The freezing of funds, after an account was created and verified is what i read the most about. Since i have no clue as to how much these cases represent the total of their turnover i dont want to pass any judgement but you dont hear about these practices with major banks unless we get into the real deep stuff with many millions involved. But freezing an account for 10 or 20k seems a bit odd in my books. One thing these providers seem to have in common though is that communication with clients seems to come to a halt when this happens. The only provider which seems to not engage in these activitiess is payeer. They still close accounts but they dont keep the money more than 3 days. Anyhow, these business are pooping up like the hotcakes and i am tempting to try them out but my brain keeps telling me to be extremely cautious. It would be a nice alternative ...in theory.
So far I had no problems with LeuPay, WorldCore, AdvCash at all. I will not be able to tell you how I setup the accounts ;)
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